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Todd,

Do you think Brodie alone cane get us in the top 10 this year? If not what would it take?

Also do you think the Hall for Larson has any impact on a Brodie’s worth?

Todd,

Do you think Brodie alone cane get us in the top 10 this year? If not what would it take?

Also do you think the Hall for Larson has any impact on a Brodie’s worth?
- jessehub

Trading anyone from the top four should not be for picks. Flames need help on the wing now, not in a season or two or three...

Seems worth a small two way contract. Free asset if nothing else.

Todd,

Do you think Brodie alone cane get us in the top 10 this year? If not what would it take?

Also do you think the Hall for Larson has any impact on a Brodie’s worth?
- jessehub

Not too many GM's make that assinide trade of Hall for Larsson. Then not too many make that deal for Griffin Reinhart either. Cant put too much stock in that determining value. More I thought about it the more I think a Hoffman for Brodie 1 for 1 is bang on value when considering age, remaining term & cap hits.
Flames have the pieces to make the playoffs but what I concluded after watching the playoffs & watching Vegas, we need to push the Backlund/Frolik duo down to the 3rd line & Tre needs to acquire a high end centre to pair Tkachuk up with.
The cost will not be nice. If Tre could land either RoR or Zibby or Rakell this summer, that would be a success. We have the players that can be rotated to fill in the top 3 lines.

Not too many GM's make that assinide trade of Hall for Larsson. Then not too many make that deal for Griffin Reinhart either. Cant put too much stock in that determining value. More I thought about it the more I think a Hoffman for Brodie 1 for 1 is bang on value when considering age, remaining term & cap hits.
Flames have the pieces to make the playoffs but what I concluded after watching the playoffs & watching Vegas, we need to push the Backlund/Frolik duo down to the 3rd line & Tre needs to acquire a high end centre to pair Tkachuk up with.
The cost will not be nice. If Tre could land either RoR or Zibby or Rakell this summer, that would be a success. We have the players that can be rotated to fill in the top 3 lines.
- Kevin R

Agreed. I’d love to see Hoffman for Brody

We need a solid backup as well. If Bennett can some how find some traction this season it would be huge for this team.

I wonder if we would be able to pry panarin from Columbus. He’s in a contract year and Columbus is going to have to pay alot of people after this year. I wonder if they would take Brodie and Bennett due to their contracts being cheap. Panarin plays as a left wing but he shoots right.
Geaudreau-mony-panarin would be a wicked line.

See below - I posted this on the Leafs thread - thoughts??

How about this:

To Leafs:
Brodie

To Flames:
Kapanen
2018 1st
2018 7th (Toronto has 2 of them - so either one is fine)

Kapanen is somewhat of a gamble for the Flames. He might be the victim of too much Leafs right wing depth - or he could be what he has shown already - a fringe NHLer. I think his potential upside is enough for the Flames to hope that he could pan out into a top 6 RW for them. The 1st from the Leafs (25th overall) has to be part of the deal - the Flames need a first round pick and they don't trade a Top 4 Mobile D with good term and price (2 more years at 4.65 mil) without a first in the package. The 7th is a bit of a throw in because the Flames need picks and the Leafs have 2 in the 7th already.

I don't know - am I selling the Flames short on this one? Are the Leafs willing to part with this year's first?

See below - I posted this on the Leafs thread - thoughts??

How about this:

To Leafs:
Brodie

To Flames:
Kapanen
2018 1st
2018 7th (Toronto has 2 of them - so either one is fine)

Kapanen is somewhat of a gamble for the Flames. He might be the victim of too much Leafs right wing depth - or he could be what he has shown already - a fringe NHLer. I think his potential upside is enough for the Flames to hope that he could pan out into a top 6 RW for them. The 1st from the Leafs (25th overall) has to be part of the deal - the Flames need a first round pick and they don't trade a Top 4 Mobile D with good term and price (2 more years at 4.65 mil) without a first in the package. The 7th is a bit of a throw in because the Flames need picks and the Leafs have 2 in the 7th already.

I don't know - am I selling the Flames short on this one? Are the Leafs willing to part with this year's first?
- hags11

Think I might do that. Kapanen is definitely a gamble, but getting and a mid-first rounder for Brodie seems like a decent deal. I think a Brodie-Hoffman 1 for 1 is the best deal we could get and is basically even in value, so that's probably what I'd look at doing first, but if Ottawa is asking too much then I think a deal similar to that one makes sense.

As for this kid, I don't see any harm in giving him a cheap two-way. It's incredibly low risk and a free asset. And who knows? Maybe the guy lights it up.

Low risk move. But another left shot. Does Tre not see the need for right shot wingers?

See below - I posted this on the Leafs thread - thoughts??

How about this:

To Leafs:
Brodie

To Flames:
Kapanen
2018 1st
2018 7th (Toronto has 2 of them - so either one is fine)

Kapanen is somewhat of a gamble for the Flames. He might be the victim of too much Leafs right wing depth - or he could be what he has shown already - a fringe NHLer. I think his potential upside is enough for the Flames to hope that he could pan out into a top 6 RW for them. The 1st from the Leafs (25th overall) has to be part of the deal - the Flames need a first round pick and they don't trade a Top 4 Mobile D with good term and price (2 more years at 4.65 mil) without a first in the package. The 7th is a bit of a throw in because the Flames need picks and the Leafs have 2 in the 7th already.

I don't know - am I selling the Flames short on this one? Are the Leafs willing to part with this year's first?
- hags11

I’d consider it but everything in that trade is a risk for CGY. Trading a top 3 D for a current fourth liner that ‘could’ become a top 6 is dangerous. But, I like Kapanen and would try for either a 2nd or a 3rd this year or next year instead of a 7th. To me that is less risk than a 7th rounder. Or we up the offer with Frolik and get another player or prospect.

As for Hoffman, I’d love to grab him but we would still be lacking that top 6 right shot.

Here's my ideal gameplan:

1) Trade Brodie(+) for a RH sniping winger at the draft (I don't know who - Kessel would be amazing but unlikely)

2) Make a hard push for Tavares if he walks from Islanders. Again, I believe it's unlikely NYI completely overhaul their management just to let their top player walk for nothing especially with the cap space they have... Nothing seems to be close yet though so go for it if you're BT for sure!

3) If JT doesn't work - look for a trade with some defensive assets/Benny for ROR or any other available centre.

4) sign a depth goalie

I wonder if we would be able to pry panarin from Columbus. He’s in a contract year and Columbus is going to have to pay alot of people after this year. I wonder if they would take Brodie and Bennett due to their contracts being cheap. Panarin plays as a left wing but he shoots right.
Geaudreau-mony-panarin would be a wicked line.
- shayne

Not sure Columbus needs Brodie with there current top 4..

Nor do the flames have draft equity to intrigue Columbus.

I'd be more inclined to try to get Korpisalo out of Columbus though.

See below - I posted this on the Leafs thread - thoughts??

How about this:

To Leafs:
Brodie

To Flames:
Kapanen
2018 1st
2018 7th (Toronto has 2 of them - so either one is fine)

Kapanen is somewhat of a gamble for the Flames. He might be the victim of too much Leafs right wing depth - or he could be what he has shown already - a fringe NHLer. I think his potential upside is enough for the Flames to hope that he could pan out into a top 6 RW for them. The 1st from the Leafs (25th overall) has to be part of the deal - the Flames need a first round pick and they don't trade a Top 4 Mobile D with good term and price (2 more years at 4.65 mil) without a first in the package. The 7th is a bit of a throw in because the Flames need picks and the Leafs have 2 in the 7th already.

I don't know - am I selling the Flames short on this one? Are the Leafs willing to part with this year's first?
- hags11

Not a chance. Leafs need a D-Man with solid defensive skills, trading for another in the model of Gardiner likely won't/shouldn't happen.

Here's my ideal gameplan:

1) Trade Brodie(+) for a RH sniping winger at the draft (I don't know who - Kessel would be amazing but unlikely)

2) Make a hard push for Tavares if he walks from Islanders. Again, I believe it's unlikely NYI completely overhaul their management just to let their top player walk for nothing especially with the cap space they have... Nothing seems to be close yet though so go for it if you're BT for sure!

3) If JT doesn't work - look for a trade with some defensive assets/Benny for ROR or any other available centre.

4) sign a depth goalie
- LittleBroDougie

Tavares signed for 5.9mil per year on his last contract, so money isn't a motivator for him, blatantly obviously when he signed that deal..

It's the Isles or the Leafs, no one else really has a shot.. we will know for sure by July 1st.

Tavares signed for 5.9mil per year on his last contract, so money isn't a motivator for him, blatantly obviously when he signed that deal..

It's the Isles or the Leafs, no one else really has a shot.. we will know for sure by July 1st.
- aries1976

This Leafs story line makes 0 sense to me. With Matthews, Nylander, and Marner, how in any world will they be able to also have Tavares? He signed low years ago, he's not making anything less than 10M.

Give us Nylander and maybe you could...

See below - I posted this on the Leafs thread - thoughts??

How about this:

To Leafs:
Brodie

To Flames:
Kapanen
2018 1st
2018 7th (Toronto has 2 of them - so either one is fine)

Kapanen is somewhat of a gamble for the Flames. He might be the victim of too much Leafs right wing depth - or he could be what he has shown already - a fringe NHLer. I think his potential upside is enough for the Flames to hope that he could pan out into a top 6 RW for them. The 1st from the Leafs (25th overall) has to be part of the deal - the Flames need a first round pick and they don't trade a Top 4 Mobile D with good term and price (2 more years at 4.65 mil) without a first in the package. The 7th is a bit of a throw in because the Flames need picks and the Leafs have 2 in the 7th already.

I don't know - am I selling the Flames short on this one? Are the Leafs willing to part with this year's first?
- hags11

Brutal trade for flames - I'd pass... Unless the 1st was flipped for more top-6/goaltending help.

Not sure Columbus needs Brodie with there current top 4..

Nor do the flames have draft equity to intrigue Columbus.

I'd be more inclined to try to get Korpisalo out of Columbus though.
- aries1976

My thinking is Johnson is a UFa so he’s probably gone and they are going to have to give Bobrovsky 9 mil and Werenski 6.5 at least. Next year Dubois is contract eligible so They will need value contracts like Brodie and Bennett to stay competitive.

It would probably take a lot to get panarin but I think it’s worth it to check in.

See below - I posted this on the Leafs thread - thoughts??

How about this:

To Leafs:
Brodie

To Flames:
Kapanen
2018 1st
2018 7th (Toronto has 2 of them - so either one is fine)

Kapanen is somewhat of a gamble for the Flames. He might be the victim of too much Leafs right wing depth - or he could be what he has shown already - a fringe NHLer. I think his potential upside is enough for the Flames to hope that he could pan out into a top 6 RW for them. The 1st from the Leafs (25th overall) has to be part of the deal - the Flames need a first round pick and they don't trade a Top 4 Mobile D with good term and price (2 more years at 4.65 mil) without a first in the package. The 7th is a bit of a throw in because the Flames need picks and the Leafs have 2 in the 7th already.

I don't know - am I selling the Flames short on this one? Are the Leafs willing to part with this year's first?
- hags11

Leafs need RD, not more LD. Say what you will about how Brodie is better on the right, but Babs likes his guys to play their "proper" side. I don't see them as a good trade partner. Never know what Tre has to his sleeve though.

This Leafs story line makes 0 sense to me. With Matthews, Nylander, and Marner, how in any world will they be able to also have Tavares? He signed low years ago, he's not making anything less than 10M.

Give us Nylander and maybe you could...
- LittleBroDougie

Gut feeling is that the leafs would consider dealing Nylander. But not for Brodie.

Leafs are walking away from lupul, bozak, JVR, komarov, plekanec, and others and the cap is going up a bit.... there will be cap space.

If nylander and marner combine for more than 13mil, I'd be shocked.

Gut feeling is that the leafs would consider him. But not for Brodie.

Leafs are walking away from lupul, bozak, JVR, komarov, plekanec, and others and the cap is going up a bit.... there will be cap space.

If nylander and marner combine for more than 13mil, I'd be shocked.
- aries1976

Not more than 13 but probably will be 12-13. Throw in the fact that Matthews got McDavid's agency and he's looking at around 10M at least. Throw in JT and that's another 10. That's minimum 32M for 4 players... Not happening.

Good luck fitting 19 more players including a strong defence with only 50-60% of the cap space remaining.

I wonder if we would be able to pry panarin from Columbus. He’s in a contract year and Columbus is going to have to pay alot of people after this year. I wonder if they would take Brodie and Bennett due to their contracts being cheap. Panarin plays as a left wing but he shoots right.
Geaudreau-mony-panarin would be a wicked line.
- shayne

Pipe dream my friend..

Not too many GM's make that assinide trade of Hall for Larsson. Then not too many make that deal for Griffin Reinhart either. Cant put too much stock in that determining value. More I thought about it the more I think a Hoffman for Brodie 1 for 1 is bang on value when considering age, remaining term & cap hits.
Flames have the pieces to make the playoffs but what I concluded after watching the playoffs & watching Vegas, we need to push the Backlund/Frolik duo down to the 3rd line & Tre needs to acquire a high end centre to pair Tkachuk up with.
The cost will not be nice. If Tre could land either RoR or Zibby or Rakell this summer, that would be a success. We have the players that can be rotated to fill in the top 3 lines.
- Kevin R

I could see Hoffman if Karlsson jets. I love to get that done for sure. Brodie and Frolik might get the trade started..

Anaheim highly values Rakell, and for good reason. He's part of the newer blood. Getzy, Perry and Kessler are getting old now.

ROR is a long shot at best. Can you imagine if Buffalo traded the best face off man in the league this year. GM career suicide.

See below - I posted this on the Leafs thread - thoughts??

How about this:

To Leafs:
Brodie

To Flames:
Kapanen
2018 1st
2018 7th (Toronto has 2 of them - so either one is fine)

Kapanen is somewhat of a gamble for the Flames. He might be the victim of too much Leafs right wing depth - or he could be what he has shown already - a fringe NHLer. I think his potential upside is enough for the Flames to hope that he could pan out into a top 6 RW for them. The 1st from the Leafs (25th overall) has to be part of the deal - the Flames need a first round pick and they don't trade a Top 4 Mobile D with good term and price (2 more years at 4.65 mil) without a first in the package. The 7th is a bit of a throw in because the Flames need picks and the Leafs have 2 in the 7th already.

I don't know - am I selling the Flames short on this one? Are the Leafs willing to part with this year's first?
- hags11

Kapanen sounds like a reclamation project that we always go for and it never pans out..

Kapanen sounds like a reclamation project that we always go for and it never pans out..
- Flamin_Irishmin

Kapanen is good. I dont think he is a reclamation project at all. As said above he is a victim of depth in his position. The TO games I watched, he seems to be the hardest working guy on the ice. Mind u he is on the 4th line mostly when I watched but i like him. I wouldn't include Bennett or Brodie in any deal for Kapanen though unless there is a bigger deal to be had. F the first round picks. The only first round pick im interested in is Ottawas. And I probably wouldnt like the payment. The 4th pick will fetch alot. Advantage is that Melnyk is a cheap wiener